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PostSubject: Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro.   Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro. Icon_minitimeThu May 26, 2011 11:59 pm

Im having issues, and instead of chasing my tail, i need to have someone diagnose and possibly repair it, im tired of not being able to drive it. Nothing is leaking on the opti, the harness was replaced.... The opti is BRAND NEW, and its still not running right..... So its time a pro looks at this thing. Any suggestions for an honest shop that wont screw me over would be appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro.   Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro. Icon_minitimeFri May 27, 2011 12:11 am

Your BRAND NEW opti already took a shit. Get another, install, drive.
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PostSubject: Re: Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro.   Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro. Icon_minitimeFri May 27, 2011 12:44 am

Convert it to COP from what I have heard the OPTI is a pile of shit new or used on these. And doing this will cover the cost of 2 new opti's
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I've heard and done some research on the COP setups. Most still require you to have an operational optical sensor in the opti, so atm, they are out of the question. Also, I can't justify spending another 1200 + on this car to the wife..... at least not right now.

Bigbird: Yep, thats my conclusion, as everything Ive checked with the wiring seems to be correct. I just want to make sure that is the issue before removing and re-installing one again, since this time its probably going to be done in the driveway without air tools. I can do it (I was with JD when the other one went in) its just going to be a pain in the ass.

Just as an FYI for anyone reading this, i took a good long look at it when JD and I had the other opti out last week. Nothing appeared to be corroded at all. The intake is NOT leaking. Everything was dry behind the opti when we swapped it out. Actually, there are no leaks from the front of the motor at all. I replaced the Opti wiring harness today, and it solved the intermittent start issues, but its still not right... hence the need for an experianced GM mechanic to confirm my findings.

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PostSubject: Re: Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro.   Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro. Icon_minitimeFri May 27, 2011 1:18 am

I wouldnt even bring it to a shop. At some point in time that opti got moisture inside it causing failure or was defective out of the box. Get in the driveway. Pull your radiator, water pump, etc and get another OEM AC DELCO opti in there and make sure you do a good job sealing all the gaskets around the water pump and that the wp is in good shape(or get a new one).

Also consider Chandler motorsports optis, plust wauruntee. I have only heard good things.

Also COP setups are not a cost effective way to solve the opti.

Did you check the ICM?


BTW, my car has had 4 optis in it.
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i have a known good complete cop car lt1 if ya need anything just let me know. still has the harness, computer & tranny on it.
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I've heard and done some research on the COP setups. Most still require you to have an operational optical sensor in the opti, so atm, they are out of the question. Also, I can't justify spending another 1200 + on this car to the wife..... at least not right now.

Bigbird: Yep, thats my conclusion, as everything Ive checked with the wiring seems to be correct. I just want to make sure that is the issue before removing and re-installing one again, since this time its probably going to be done in the driveway without air tools. I can do it (I was with JD when the other one went in) its just going to be a pain in the ass.

Just as an FYI for anyone reading this, i took a good long look at it when JD and I had the other opti out last week. Nothing appeared to be corroded at all. The intake is NOT leaking. Everything was dry behind the opti when we swapped it out. Actually, there are no leaks from the front of the motor at all. I replaced the Opti wiring harness today, and it solved the intermittent start issues, but its still not right... hence the need for an experianced GM mechanic to confirm my findings.


Will it make it to Janesville?

What is it doing?

What brand of Opti is it?

I have worked on a few LT cars in my day.

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i have a known good complete cop car lt1 if ya need anything just let me know. still has the harness, computer & tranny on it.

Oh yeah?

I am interested if hes not.


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Blackout wrote:
I've heard and done some research on the COP setups. Most still require you to have an operational optical sensor in the opti, so atm, they are out of the question. Also, I can't justify spending another 1200 + on this car to the wife..... at least not right now.

Bigbird: Yep, thats my conclusion, as everything Ive checked with the wiring seems to be correct. I just want to make sure that is the issue before removing and re-installing one again, since this time its probably going to be done in the driveway without air tools. I can do it (I was with JD when the other one went in) its just going to be a pain in the ass.

Just as an FYI for anyone reading this, i took a good long look at it when JD and I had the other opti out last week. Nothing appeared to be corroded at all. The intake is NOT leaking. Everything was dry behind the opti when we swapped it out. Actually, there are no leaks from the front of the motor at all. I replaced the Opti wiring harness today, and it solved the intermittent start issues, but its still not right... hence the need for an experianced GM mechanic to confirm my findings.


Will it make it to Janesville?

What is it doing?

What brand of Opti is it?

I have worked on a few LT cars in my day.


ma70tt wrote:
i have a known good complete cop car lt1 if ya need anything just let me know. still has the harness, computer & tranny on it.

Oh yeah?

I am interested if hes not.




Yes, I believe it will. The car starts hard ,sometimes it takes multiple tries to get it started. While running, the car lacks the power it had when I first drove it. It boggs down when you get on it, and spews out a bunch of black smoke at WOT. After a bit the SES light comes on and the car regains some of its lost power, but still boggs down at WOT. The only code I have been able to pull out of the computer is a code 36, high resolution signal not detected/multiple low res pulses detected. The wiring checks out as far as I can see. The 1 week old optispark in it has approximately 50 miles on it, and is a complete Accel brand opti. The first week I had the car, everything was awesome, it drove great and made great power. The second week I had it, it misfired all over the place at cruise, and a code for the low resolution pulse came up. JD and I replaced the Opti last Tuesday, and it fired up and ran. As we lowered the car off the lift it died and would not re-start. I figured that part out, the optispark wiring harness was bad. I just replaced that today, and the car fired up right away. i drove it, it was still bogging down bad, and I stopped somewhere to let it cool down for a minute. Car would NOT restart. It cranked and cranked, it would seem to catch a bit but would die right away. Starting fluid in the TB helped it start up (horrible rattle at startup for a SPLIT SECOND) and then it would idle. SES light lit at that time. I drove it home, and it would restart with a bit of persuasion, the SES light would light up about 3 seconds after it started up, and stayed on as long as the engine was running.

So..... its lacking power, the ses is on, code 36 (high res pulse) code is set, and it is hard to start. Thats about it.
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I wouldnt even bring it to a shop. At some point in time that opti got moisture inside it causing failure or was defective out of the box. Get in the driveway. Pull your radiator, water pump, etc and get another OEM AC DELCO opti in there and make sure you do a good job sealing all the gaskets around the water pump and that the wp is in good shape(or get a new one).

Also consider Chandler motorsports optis, plust wauruntee. I have only heard good things.

Also COP setups are not a cost effective way to solve the opti.

Did you check the ICM?


BTW, my car has had 4 optis in it.

Just to clarify here..... this opti had absolutely ZERO chance of getting water in it. The cap is sealed to the opti body with silicone, the vent lines are hooked up to vacuum and the throttle tube correctly, and the car was driven when it was dry out. Plus, in less than one week there is a virtual impossibility that any kind of moisture (if it DID get in there) would have had time to corrode anything. It IS a possibility that it was defective out of the box, as the rough running and lack of power was present immediately after replacing the opti...... on the other hand, it was like that before we replaced it too.... Water pump and all hoses are sealed and all joints are dry. NOTHING leaked onto or into the opti.

I had the ICM tested and it came back as good. No intermittant signal once it got hot either. The coil is brand new as well. I'm familiar with Chandler Motorsports, I actually ordered my new opti wiring harness from there. 3 different opti's in as many weeks is absolutely ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro.   Needed. Good GM garage to diagnose the Camaro. Icon_minitimeFri May 27, 2011 3:50 am

Its your opti.

Here is the thing, THE ONLY OPTI SPARK TO GET IS A AC DELCO

I had a Accel on my 94, lasted 7 months, Autozone off brand you'll get about a year, MSD hit or miss, Jegs brand is shit out of the box, Dynasparks were good but suck now.

So return that Accel and get a AC delco.

That is really the only thing it could be, you might want to check fuel pressure but I seriously doubt thats the problem. You could also try unplugging the MAF and see if it runs OK like that, but I would bet my whole paycheck on the opti being magic cock pony.


What kind of style opti do you have? 1 or 2

I think Accel only makes the 2.
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Ya I said opti again , blackout forgot to tell you guys that the coil was bad at one time . The ground was separating from the coil itself.

Just take the time to replace it . Save some money. I have tools that you can borrow if needed.
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blackout, your not listening again.
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Yes, I am Tye. I checked out what you told me about, and everything was okay. JD thinks its the opti again, I just want confirmation (if there can be any ) before I tear into this. If I cant nail it down any further, I'll just have to replace it and see what happens.


Yeah, I forgot about the coil..... the body of the coil was loose on the large metal frame. it was the original coil, so i replaced it. We think it could have possibly taken out the Opti this time. Or the damn Accel unit was shit out of the box. Anyways, I ordered a new opti today, so we'll see how long it takes to get here. Hopefully I can get it by the end of the weekend so i can drive the car on memorial day.


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mtperformance wrote:

THE ONLY OPTI SPARK TO GET IS A AC DELCO


bigbird94 wrote:
get another OEM AC DELCO opti in there

We both used capital letters for a reason.
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... Yeah, i kind of got that skippy. Lol. Thats what i ordered. Just so you guys know, i found out from a couple of sources that the AC Delco optis are no longer being produced.... So when whats oit there is gone, tjey are gone. Not good. The dealer wanted just shy of 500 for one...... So I went somewhere else.
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Where is James' I told you so post?
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I think I got mine from summit.
I paid 460+
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Where is James' I told you so post?

Nobodies fault but GM, that opti-spark is a huge piece of shit.
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Kevin

Don't be condescending by calling bigbird skippy. Bite the bullet, pay the 500 for the opti or 460 from summit and get it done.

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Wasnt trying to be condecending, it was just kind of obvious. Smile Fucking opti...... I got a slightly better price at 430 shipped, so hopefully it gets out the door yet today. Im going to tear it down this weekend so everything is ready when it gets here.
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Put a carb on it. Kidding. Sorta.
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eeewwww..... carb....... LOL
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Peaches wrote:
Where is James' I told you so post?

Nobodies fault but GM, that opti-spark is a huge piece of shit.

You make my points much better than I do Smile
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Peaches wrote:
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Peaches wrote:
Where is James' I told you so post?

Nobodies fault but GM, that opti-spark is a huge piece of shit.

You make my points much better than I do Smile

This relationship is going places. Laughing
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eeewwww..... carb....... LOL

Laugh at carbs all you want! My Coronet doesn't seem to miss many meets or need to be disassembled at the lot!

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