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PostSubject: Verdict on the motor so far.   Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:38 pm

Meister called me today, here is the verdi t so far.

Crank broke right near the number 1I main. Block looks okay so far, so thats a plus.

The pistons were VERY carboned up, and it looks like the top set of rings lost tension. The rings also appear to have "fluttered" taking out the ringlands on at least 4 of them. The rods appear to have LOCK TIGHTED bolts, and are very likely out if round. No idea what caused the crank to break at the front.... but it was a cast eagle crank, which ive read horror stories of the same fracture happening a LOT over at ls1 tech.

So, it looks like a block cleanup, timing set, rotating assembly, and other misc parts. Hes currently looking up a kit for me so we can get an Idea on what this is going to cost. Yay me..... at least it will be done RIGHT this time.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:55 pm

with how unbalanced that motor was, im surprised it lasted as long as it did.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:20 pm

Why was the motor out of balance?

Might have been said already and I missed it.
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:40 pm

I'm parting out my motor let me know if your intrested in a set of eagle H-beams and eagle forged crank Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:36 pm

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with how unbalanced that motor was, im surprised it lasted as long as it did.

^ this. Its funny though, the bearings werent that bad.....
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Thunderballs: it had a stock weighted flexplate on an internally balanced motor.....yikes.

Thats not what caused the crank faiure though..... that was likely a shitty eagle cast stroker crank. They have a HUGE bad rep at ls1tech for failing exactly like mine did. It broke just like the other ones ive seen. The pistons/ringlands are all tune for sure, lots of carbon, broken rings, it was obviously overheated at one point pretty bad, since the top rings hardly have any spring left to them.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:01 pm

Why did whoever do that with the flex plate. Thats kinda stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:23 pm

No idea..... not sure exactly who did it, it was either who put the motor in the car, or the builder. Theres conflicting stories on both sides..... but at this point it doesnt really matter much. It didnt apparently damage anything too bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:26 pm

What a piece of shit
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:35 am

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What a piece of shit

I know, right? Smile



Fuck it.... Dave can rebuild it. We are looking into a couple of things right now, as soon as he makes sure the cylinders are still round, we'll go from there. It MIGHT still be a 383 when he's done. LOL Even if something drastic has to happen, it will have ARP hardware throughout, and will be set up for some squeeze. Probably not this year though.... I think my wife would kill me in my sleep.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:53 am

told you so
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:05 am

^ LOL ^

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Whatever.... I guess I can laugh about that now.... yes, you DID. Oh well, i'm not mad.... nothing you can do but laugh it off sometimes.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:12 am

Well, you knew it would be bad. I also know the eagle has a hit or miss reputation, but again I think the flexplate still caused it. Well good to figure it out now and out it back together

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:35 am

MikeyT wrote:
Well, you knew it would be bad. I also know the eagle has a hit or miss reputation, but again I think the flexplate still caused it. Well good to figure it out now and out it back together

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:48 am

Yeah, i prepared myself for the worst. Its not as bad as that though, the block is okay at least. Smile I'm spending the coin to do it RIGHT the first time, and I'm still on track to have it out by the time the salt is washed off the roads.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:06 am

u should be all over steve for buying his parts... he has a hell of a deal on every thing other than the block!! (thats mine)lol!! awsome heads and good internals!!! if you buy good new internals it would be almost the same as what you could buy all of steves stuff..
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:29 am

Yeah, I already talked with Steve LOL He was texting Dave with me standing there checkign out my motor! I'm seriously considering his parts. Part of me wants to save the money and get his stuff, but part of me wants all brand new parts. ATM, I'm leaning towards everything brand new and set up right. We will see though, I have some decisions to make pretty quick here.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:24 am

Not sure why you would spend the money for new. Dave asked if I had the stuff maged I told him I was not spending that money but if you bought it and had it done found something cracked id take my parts back and give you your money back. Your paying less then half of new for forged parts. Even if you throw in the coast to upgrade to ARP2000 hardware and new pistons your talking 1300-1400ish VS 2300ish. Yesterday is really the first day I actively tried selling my parts and have done okay if you don't buy them I'm sure someone will.
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:22 am

Well that sucks, just make sure you dont get it tuned from the same person this time as it sounds like they did not really know wtf they were doing.


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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:09 pm

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...if you bought it and had it done found something cracked id take my parts back and give you your money back. Your paying less then half of new for forged parts...

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:42 pm

StrokedZ wrote:
and will be set up for some squeeze.



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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:33 pm

2jz-U-Ltr wrote:
StrokedZ wrote:
and will be set up for some squeeze.





HAHA id imagine thats what blackouts gonna look like when he hits the noz.
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:29 pm

More like this:



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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:53 pm

Here are some pictures of the carnage:















I can't beleive it still drove! I drove back from Fort Atkinson to Sun Prairie, and then drove it from Sun Prairie to JD's shop like this.

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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:02 pm

wow.
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PostSubject: Re: Verdict on the motor so far.   Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:37 pm

would ya look at that
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